Um, he did, and people didn't believe the person then. What would be different now?

I'd just like another one...because from Joseph Smith's day we've gone even farther downhill.

By the way, I did a bit of study on Mormonism in comparative religion. With your addition you have incorporated the Americas into Biblical history, explained Native Americans as well as giving the Europeans a connection with the land in which they now lived...it's really quite ingenious.

~Zoo

There is another one, Zoo. That's what's so great about the LDS church - there's been a prophet (14 soon to be 15, actually) since Joseph Smith.

The most recent prophet, Gordon B. Hinckley, passed away on Sunday night. Another prophet will be chosen, and Christ's church will continue just as he intends it to be - led by someone who receives inspiration from God, not someone who went to the right theological college or has the right "nobby" parents or friends.

It's truly amazing to know that God still speaks to us through his prophet in this day and age - and it's not going to stop.

Lula: Okay, I forfeit. I'll be a non Christian if your definition is the one that the rest of the world uses. I know what I believe and what I am, and that's enough for me.

Be proud of being a non-Christian.

Christ was a non-Christian.

Peter was (not a Pope, but a prophet) and a non-Christian.

Alma was a non-Christian.

Joseph Smith was a non-Christian.

Gordon B. Hickley was a non-Christian.

Can't complain too much with company like that.

Is Jesus Christ your personal savior?  If so, then yes you are a Christian.

It used to bother me when people would say I'm not a Christian also.  Now I just look at who it is making that accusation and shrug it off.  I'll let Christ decide if I am a Christian or not and leave it at that.

Cacto:

Christians don't call themselves Jews, yet they kept their old Jewish books and just added some more and a new 'prophet', much like Mormons added a new set of books and a new 'prophet' in their faith.

Interesting comment, considering we believe that "the House of Israel" refers to all followers of "The God of Ambraham, Isaac and Jacob".   In the Old Testament, the Lord called Israel "mine elect".  So all that is of Christ is of the House of Israel. 

Jesus didn't "start" Christianity when he began His earthly ministry, he simply refined it and gave us the higher law. 

Zoo:

I wish God would talk to someone else right about now to clear up all the foolishness we see in today's society. So many people have lost the true path of their religion, in my opinion.

The Good News is, He does.  We speak with Him in prayer, He speaks with us in many ways.  We can recieve revelation from God in things pertaining to our life and our responsibilities.  For things pertaining to everyone, He speaks to Prophets.  By listening to the Prophets today, we will live better lives.

 

Trouble with that is, we have to figure out who's lying and who's crazy before we can take them seriously.

There have been many false Prophets...which is such a pain in the ass because then you have trust issues.

~Zoo

How about...Christian 2.0

Zoo, you know quite well that's a vapor religion. It's been in Alpha forever with no sign of Omega forthcoming.

Zoo:

Exactly, which is why the personal communication with God is important. We don't have to take anyone's word for anything. If we want to know if a prophet, teacher, preacher, minister, evangelist, missionary, or blogger is speaking the word of God. We can go straight to the source and ask Him if things we learn are of Him, or someone else.

How about Christianity 1.¥ ;~D

Catholicism has that too. Nothing like believing your leaders are divinely inspired to make the world more messed up than it was before.



I'm pretty sure that's a rare belief world-wide. I doubt many people see Muslims as being of the House of Israel, yet they follow the god of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

Cacto:

Muslims do believe in the God of Abraham, but you'd probably get shot if you told a militant one that Islam has anything to do with Isaac (Israel). ;~D

I'm glad you're standing up for what you believe in and that you don't let other people change you in what you believe. It's not your problem what they think, it's theirs!

If you were a Scientologist...I might call you brainwashed...those people are nuts! Poor Katie and Suri...Tom is a kerrazy guy.

In the same token, what a Scientologist is, (and I'm not going to argue something that is a mute point with what a lot of folks believe), or what they believe is in the same vein? Shouldn't they be allowed to practice what they do and isn't this the same type of ridicule they face as you do when others say you're not a Christian? Mind you, I'm not saying you're calling them out or anything, but my point is, they are experiencing the same issues because they are not a part of the 'regular' church system.

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I think they are experiencing the same issues because they are not as open as the 'regular' church system.

Scientology is not active in Ireland, but I remember that in Germany anybody could go to a (real) church or mosque and listen to what the respective religions have to say, and anybody could read their holy books and find out what it is about, and the organisations' finances were open and the government knew exactly what they do with the income they don't pay taxes for.

In contrast Scientology sell their "holy" material for a fee, do not reveal how much they make and what it is spent on, and (ab)use copyright law to make sure that nobody read their "holy" scriptures without permission.

And to top it off they claim that they are being persecuted like the Jews in Nazi Germany.

lw screw-up.