*Sigh* Mormons are Christians

Yeah, that's all I have to say.

Published on January 29, 2008 By Cedarbird In Religion

Over the years, I have been called a lot of things for being LDS. A cult member, a lunatic, I've been "brainwashed," and more. The one that bothers me is "Non-Christian." Honestly, I can't understand where people get this notion. We believe in Jesus Christ, that he is the Savior of the world, the Son of God etc etc. I'm not going to go into all that because it's been explained time and time again. So let me say this. As far as my meager studies of the Bible go, there is nothing in there to prove that I'm not a Christian.

Acts 11: 26
"And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch."
This passage is referring to believers in Christ and his teachings, is it not? Of course, this title was probably meant to be a pejorative given by unbelievers, but the name kind of stuck.

Acts 26:28
"Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian."
We believe Paul to be an Apostle of God...therefore what he preached to Agrippa was Christ's teachings, which we believe in...so Christian?

1 Peter 4:16
"Yet if an man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf."
This is just the only other time the Bible mentions being Christian, but we'll suffer or die for our belief in God and in Jesus.

I don't want to get in an argument, and I know I don't know the Bible as well as many of you, but I really feel hurt when I'm accused of not being a Christian. I believe in the Bible, and in Jesus Christ. There is nothing in the Bible that tells me I'm not one, all the passages that have the word are listed above. I know I might get bashed for saying this things, but I just want to clarify that. Thank you for your time.

Comments (Page 3)

Locamama

on Jan 30, 2008

and scientologists turn up their nose at Brooke Shields for taking medication when she had post partum depression - it's the circle of life

Zoologist03

on Jan 30, 2008

In contrast Scientology sell their "holy" material for a fee, do not reveal how much they make and what it is spent on, and (ab)use copyright law to make sure that nobody read their "holy" scriptures without permission.

And to top it off they claim that they are being persecuted like the Jews in Nazi Germany.

Exactly. Scientologists are assholes. Now, if it were any regular old cult where you could walk in and learn what you please, I might not have a problem with it. When you start charging people to prove their faith...well, that's when I start to take issue with it.

Then there's the rampant suing of people...I guess Lord Xenu needs a new spaceship, huh?

Also, having Tom Cruise as your main guy?...Could've done a bit better.

Oh yeah...then there's the part where they pressured Isaac Hayes to quit South Park. I'll never forgive them for that. I miss Chef.

~Zoo

SanChonino

on Jan 30, 2008

Oh yeah...then there's the part where they pressured Isaac Hayes to quit South Park. I'll never forgive them for that. I miss Chef.

But the way they killed him was fekkin' brilliant.

Zoologist03

on Jan 30, 2008

But the way they killed him was fekkin' brilliant

A death only suitable for one of the best characters on the show.

The eulogy was great too...totally trashing "that fruity little club."

~Zoo

lulapilgrim

on Jan 30, 2008

Christ was a non-Christian.

I'd say Christ was the FIRST Christian!

Peter was (not a Pope, but a prophet) and a non-Christian.

This is incorrect.

St.Peter was born a Jew and as one of Christ's Apostles converted to Christianity and practiced the Christian faith. He's definitely a Christian. As far as St.Peter being the first Pope of the Catholic Church, Christ had something to say about that being so. "And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock, I will build My Church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it." If you don't want to take my word for it or Christ's word, take history itself. The early writings of the Church Fathers and Doctors document that St. Peter was first Pope of the Catholic Chruch of which has followed a line of continuous unbroken succession, to the 265th, in Pope Benedict XVI. Check out the list that begins with St.Peter and ends with Pope Benedict in The World or Time ALmanac.

Zoologist03

on Jan 30, 2008

St.Peter

St. Peter Cottontail, actually. The hat was designed for rabbits.

(South Park reference)

~Zoo

Cedarbird

on Jan 30, 2008

If you were a Scientologist...I might call you brainwashed...those people are nuts!

Poor Katie and Suri...Tom is a kerrazy guy.

In the same token, what a Scientologist is, (and I'm not going to argue something that is a mute point with what a lot of folks believe), or what they believe is in the same vein? Shouldn't they be allowed to practice what they do and isn't this the same type of ridicule they face as you do when others say you're not a Christian? Mind you, I'm not saying you're calling them out or anything, but my point is, they are experiencing the same issues because they are not a part of the 'regular' church system.

I was actually referring to Tom, not the religion. I don't know enough about it to make fun of it. But Tom Cruise scares me.

ParaTed2k

on Jan 31, 2008

I know a lot of Mormons who give me the willies. ;~D

Leauki

on Jan 31, 2008

I agree that the Scientologists are a pretty weird group, but then again, lots of people think my own beliefs and practices are pretty weird, too. Bottom line is it's none of my business how others seek God, or where they find God, or what they do about it when they think they have. Religious bigotry is ugly no matter where it originates or who it is directed at.

But it is my business how others seek tax relief, or where they find tax relief, or what they do about it when they think they have.

A legitimate church (or other religious organisation) provides a service to the public that anyone can make use of. Scientology does not.

Calling a fraud is not "religious bigotry".

ParaTed2k

on Jan 31, 2008

I lived near Clearwater, Fl back in 1980. The Church of Scientology bought up a lot of the hotels and office buildings there. They declared all of the properties church buildings. It made a huge dent in Clearwater's revenue base.

I'm all for churches getting tax exemptions for their church houses, administration and doing their charity work, but if there is a business side of the organization, they should be taxed like any other business.

Leauki

on Jan 31, 2008

I can imagine. And I bet the public are not allowed to enter the buildings and use them.

I have just checked out the LDS Web site (excellent site btw!) and found that services (meetings?) are open to the public. Wikipedia says that the LDS' charity services are available to all members of the community, not just church members.

The same pretty much applies to most real religions.

I'm all for churches getting tax exemptions for their church houses, administration and doing their charity work, but if there is a business side of the organization, they should be taxed like any other business.

Exactly.

But in the case of Scientology I don't see the church and charity part at all. It's all business. They _sell_ what real religions give for free to everyone. And I have never seen a Scientology "charity" operate anywhere.

Cedarbird

on Jan 31, 2008

Mitt Romney scares ME. I won't use that to indict all Mormons, however.

heh heh...me too.

lulapilgrim

on Jan 31, 2008

I know a lot of Mormons who give me the willies. ;~D

Same here of Catholics!

Jythier

on Feb 01, 2008

I think the question that really needs answering here is, "If Joseph Smith really is a prophet, am I still going to heaven?"

And, "If Joseph Smith really isn't a prophet, are the Mormons still going to heaven?"

Well, we have the same savior, Jesus Christ... we have the same Bible, give or take a book here or there... but you kept all the goods parts, right? So there you have it.

Good enough for me.

It's not really my call though.

It's like all those 'Christians' who believe in karma and reincarnation. So far as I know there's no name yet for their faith, but that doesn't make them entirely Christian.

That's me. I'm a new-thought Christian. It's bigger than christianity - lol.

Isn't that the Emergent Church?

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